For years I studied how to get the world's hottest girls. I wanted to get a new smoking one twice a month (in addition to other girls). My search for a mentor ended upon realizing that the authority on these tan blond goddesses (often called gyaru, examples: pic 1, pic 2, pic 3) was yours truly. I was in Japan, and while regular girls for any white guy are fairly simple, the hottest ones, like in the photos above and below, are nearly impossible for a white foreigner to get. But I studied, learned the language, assimilated, and succeeded.

While studying these sexy, hard-to-get girls, I mastered the thoughts of girls in general, regardless of country or background. Since the tan blond gyarus are so rare, I often dated non-tan blond gyaru Japanese girls, Australians, Brazilians, Americans, and ultimately, girls from over 20 different countries. I conquered all far as girls are concerned. I met all of my goals except for being able to consistently get two tan blond gyarus per month. So since I felt I wasn't able to improve further I left and came back to the states to pursue my financial goals. The next step would have been to turn around and teach others what took me nearly a decade to learn. I didn't do that--no money in it--but I do offer this free site which I enjoy writing.

This site is dedicated to teaching the skills necessary for an average guy to pickup the hottest girls around. Some of it's Japan related, some of it works anywhere. Some topics are quite advanced. All topics, methods, statistics, and advice posted here are based on the true Japan nampa experiences of NuBreed. Pickup material such as this nonexistent other than the occasional forum or blog.

Monday, June 8, 2009

Japanese Cockblockers

I think I've experienced being cockblocked by Japanese guys on the street as much as anyone simply because I was always hunting in the vicinity of Japanese pick-up guy. I don't really have a highly successful way to deal with it, so if a golden rule is what you seek, skip this article! There is some insight about the situation and thoughts about what to do about it.

Japanese Guys Doing Pickup

When I learned pickup I didn't read books by American gurus, I watched Japanese nampa guys. Here are a few types:

  • 1) Some are good - so good that you rarely notice them--they don't look like they're hunting
  • 2) Some are direct - they come up from behind and throw out a barrage of questions, often with their wing's mouth moving just as fast
  • 3) And some are shy - they'll sit with their 10 buddies and push each other for 5-10 minutes to go to talk to one seated girl. Then after he starts talking they all jump out and attack her

How Japanese Guys Cockblock You & What To Do About It

1. Good Nampa Guys
The good nampa guys will likely not do anything when you're talking to a girl. They don't fit in the category of cockblocking. They can't, because they're nice guys. If they do, I'm automatically switching them to type 2 or 3, because, for that time anyway, they are being very direct and/or shy pussies.

2a. The Direct Guys
These guys can be stereotyped as hosts, although some aren't. These guys have really hurt me over the years. They are not shy and they are always warmed up. They talk to girls for a living. You can of course tell hosts by their clothes and with a little observation you can tell the daily nampa guys too by their clothes and demeanor. They aren't what you'd call respectable-looking. Girls who talk to gaijin (that is, nearly every girl we've ever talked to) will 80-90% of the time say they don't like these guys. My theory is that they like these guys but since they can't get the handsome ones they've convinced themselves to hate them.

These direct guys hurt you by simply walking right up and talking to the girl while you're there. The main line they use is, "Why are you talking to a foreigner" or something similar to make the girl feel inadequate for talking to gaijin. You really need to be prepared to get out of this one. One that really does work is to play dumb like this and say to the girl: "Hey? Do you know him too? Wow, that's funny, you saw me (your brother's friend, etc) and now you see this guy...." and if you continue talking longer he'll assume that you know her and leave you alone. If someone interrupts you might say that the girl is your student, and he might disappear. If you have to comment on the gaijin issue it has to be a comment that makes her feel it's cool to talk to gaijin. Actually that's not your goal, it doesn't matter how she feels, it matters how he thinks she feels! If he really thinks she wants to be talking to you he's gone. If she doesn't feel that it's cool to talk to you and if he is still standing there she'll stop talking to you out of embarrassment. So the key is to make him think that you're not picking her up.

Another thing I think that would work is a lot of the Pickup community AMOG tactics a lot of foreigners use on other gaijin in the bars. I'm not too familiar with them but know a few. When the hostboy comes up you can say to the girl, "Oooohh, he's cute! You told me that you like hosts, right?" Then, at that point, "gaijin" isn't the word that's embarrassing, it's "host." And if she feels embarrassed about that she might take a step away from him and he might leave. My main defense has always been to speak loudly and quickly to show the guy that she's actively involved in a conversation, in Japanese, she's focused on me, and that you aren't in our circle. I'd say this defers a good number of cockblock attempts before they begin, but not all especially:

2b. Direct Nampa from Vehicles

A huge problem I've had is with the guys who drive around in their painted vans hunting girls out the window. The have really, REALLY hurt me over the years. The girls sometimes go up to the car and talk to the guys while you're standing there looking like a dummy. I don't know how to deal with this. Even if the girls don't talk to the guys, just their presence is enough to make girls lose interest. Tip: if you notice these guys driving by looking at you and the girls, know that they will go around the block and be back again! Move the girls off of the road and preferably, out of sight!

Tip: these guys will show up only upon first talking to girls. If they see you first go up and hunt the girls and see that the girls stop to talk to your insignificant gaijin monkey butt then they think the girls are easy targets. These direct guys will never sit around watching for 5 minutes before they go cockblock you, that would make them type 3.

3. Shy Guys
Some guys will sit around a location where there are several girls sitting. I'm thinking HEP5 in Osaka. The girls sit, the guys sit. You can watch the guys watching the girls. They don't notice you yet, other than just a gaijin on vacation or something. You can sit and watch them for 10 minutes or more and if they haven't already they never go talk to the girls they are looking at. However, when you decide to go talk to the girls, BAM! They are right there within seconds! I've seen this and theorized with my friend Amanojack about this. We couldn't put two and two together, but we did conclude this: these guys will sit and stare at the girl until the girls leave. If Japanese hosts or nampa guys nampa them they won't budge. The only time they will move if is a gaijin talks to them. It's baffling to me. I would assume that if some drunk old men or loser guys came up to talk to the girls that the shy guys would also move in for the kill at this time thinking 'If the girls talk to those losers/old men/foreigners they'll talk to us!' A case of feeling insufficient, huh?

About solutions, here it's a bit harder because you don't have to get rid of just one guy, you have to get rid of all of them! They know you don't know her too because they've been sitting there stalking her for the past 10 minutes. If you read the above you would have seen how they always push their friend to go for it and after he talks the rest of the guys attack on cockblock each other. Well, you've just become the first friend and I have no clue what to do about this! You can try the solutions above, but you have to convince several guys instead of just one. Tough! 頑張れ、コンパドレー!

11 comments:

Kogi said...

Please..NuNampa and Amano Jack. How do I get with girls at bars run by the type 2 guys (who else runs them?lol) So many cute girls in my city and they love to frequent these bars that are staffed by 'cool' looking J-guys well drilled in how to keep them coming to their bars. I get an in easily, but these guys are the biggest cock-blockers on earth. Any time I get close to getting the girl to leave the bar, they are over with 'doshita no?' and the girl gives up the gab as if she is waiting for their approval, which of course is a cleverly or sometimes blatantly put bucket of cold water on the whole idea. These guys just skin me alive. I have tried being nice to these guys first up and paying no attention to the girls = fail. I have tried being stone-cold , but then I am gaffed and I have to play pussy to them. Any clues welcome.

NuBreed said...

Kogi, Hey, thanks for the comment! Too bad I just recently figured out how to allow comments on some of the older posts from last year. With your situation I can't really help you too much. If those guys don't want you to get the girl they can almost all of the time stop you--especially if they work there and kind of know the girls. If you're on the street or club with Type 2 guys who don't work there and don't know they girl you can stand strong, ignore the guy, and if he thinks you know the girl he'll leave. It's really hard to make them think you know the girl, though, because even if you say that you know her she, being Japanese, won't get it and will be like, "What? No! We just met!" even if she does want to have sex with you because, well, Japanese girls aren't exactly the smartest in the world!

Maybe you could try a series of mini-pickups where you talk the girl just a bit, then walk away before they come to block you? Still though, the cockblockers can just come up and tell the girl that you're dangerous and screw you over. Maybe try telling everyone that you have a GF, then no one will suspect you of trying to pick up anyone?

But, like I said in the beginning of this article, I don't have a golden rule solution for this one!

Kogi said...

Thanks for that..I have tried the little-it-at-a-time-approach by being nice, creating a good vibe and then leaving. I suspet these guys are on to me though. The bars, are small enough for the barman, to know who is doing what and the girls, it seems almost always know them, or want to know them, even if the girls were asked to come in just off the street. My approach has been to be friendly when going I, to everybody, first thing is the guys say how old are you and then they proceed to get all the data off you they can. Stonewalling doesn't work so I just try to lie and don't tell where I work. They are good with names and remembering stuff they will use against you later. My sorry balding white gaijin ass just cannot crack these places. I think someone ought to make a section about PU in these bars. I know some gaijin can do it, but I just haven't got a clue and for some reason I have locked horns with it. Thanks for a brilliant site man

Kogi said...

Oh..and one more thing..I suppose I am just venting my frustration a bit.I mean, the odds are going to be that stacked against a person like me in a situation like that and its probably no wonder I don't see many gaijin in there bars either - or maybe there are so many of them its impossible to meet them anyway. As a matter of fact I started going to thee places to GET AWAY form other gaijin, kind of to create my own playing field, lol. But as you say, these J-guys will block me, because they can and I accept that it might just not be the oasis of babe-land I was hoping it to be. alas!! live and learn. Damn, I like a challenge though!

NuBreed said...

Well, don't feel that you fail if you don't find the secret to pick up the girls in these places. And don't ask guys from the PUA community because they will make you feel that something is wrong with YOU for not being able to do it. Sure, there's probably a way, somehow, but it might not be worth your time and effort to figure out.

I can only think of small things. Such as carrying a camera and telling everyone you're a photographer, or something else interesting that both girls and guys will inquire about. That way you have a base topic for all conversations and can get more intimate when the guys leave. Or, when the bartender comes up you can plop 700 yen on the table and demand he make you a drink that will take him 5 minutes to make and that's not including the time it'll take looking up how to make it. Order a "Zombie" or a "Purple Dinosaur" and he'll be gone long enough for you to chat a bit!

Kogi said...

Mnn, you say, "Don't ask PUA guys cause they will make me feel that there is something wrong with me.." This isn't in the spirit of what I understand the PU community to be, but it does concur with my experience. I have vented once about this, and yes, bamn, the guy I mentioned it to made me feel like I had the problem and then it seems he had something over me. So true - how do you know this shit? I need to read soe of those books you read.

NuBreed said...

I've often heard them give this advice: 'if you would have sarged her properly--or kinoed, locked in, ran canned game, etc--from the start she wouldn't view you as low value...' or something like that makes the advise-giver feel good about himself and the guy who needs help feel like a failure.

"how do you know this shit? I need to read some of those books you read."

I've talked to a lot of PUA guys and read online how some of them talk to each other. Not all, but only the hard-core ones. Books? What books? I don't read PUA books at all. I read business, economics, and self-help books, but it's almost unrelated.

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Bombastic said...

Good stuff man. With all the street nampa I've been doing lately I've found so often it just has to do with the girls being weak-willed and not being able to withstand any kind of social pressure. A few weaks ago I met these two girls on the street and took them for ramen at 5 am, and they were happy and talkative. As soon as we sat down, a group of guys their age who they didn't even know came into the shop, and the girls just went completely silent and wouldn't look at me. They would just glance at the group of guys occasionally as they whispered about us. Needless to say that bombed from that point.

So discretion and just keeping the girls away from their peers is an important part of it, when dealing with young girls/tanned blondes/hot types who don't usually date foreigners. You can do everything right so that you should win against the cockblockers and still lose just because the girls are embarrassed anyway.

NuBreed said...

Wow, Bombastic, that ramen situation is tough! I would say, "You shouldn't have taken her to ramen!" and that would be valid advice if it'd been a first date but on first meeting you pretty much have to take what you can get. I really don't know a way around what you experienced and it's total BS but it's unfortunate that the girls we like are susceptible to embarrassment just for being different (and talking to a gaijin). We might pride ourselves on our differences but dumb people (gang members, Japanese, etc) pride themselves on being the same :(

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