Japanese Guys Doing Pickup
When I learned pickup I didn't read books by American gurus, I watched Japanese nampa guys. Here are a few types:
- 1) Some are good - so good that you rarely notice them--they don't look like they're hunting
- 2) Some are direct - they come up from behind and throw out a barrage of questions, often with their wing's mouth moving just as fast
- 3) And some are shy - they'll sit with their 10 buddies and push each other for 5-10 minutes to go to talk to one seated girl. Then after he starts talking they all jump out and attack her
How Japanese Guys Cockblock You & What To Do About It
1. Good Nampa Guys
The good nampa guys will likely not do anything when you're talking to a girl. They don't fit in the category of cockblocking. They can't, because they're nice guys. If they do, I'm automatically switching them to type 2 or 3, because, for that time anyway, they are being very direct and/or shy pussies.
2a. The Direct Guys
These guys can be stereotyped as hosts, although some aren't. These guys have really hurt me over the years. They are not shy and they are always warmed up. They talk to girls for a living. You can of course tell hosts by their clothes and with a little observation you can tell the daily nampa guys too by their clothes and demeanor. They aren't what you'd call respectable-looking. Girls who talk to gaijin (that is, nearly every girl we've ever talked to) will 80-90% of the time say they don't like these guys. My theory is that they like these guys but since they can't get the handsome ones they've convinced themselves to hate them.
These direct guys hurt you by simply walking right up and talking to the girl while you're there. The main line they use is, "Why are you talking to a foreigner" or something similar to make the girl feel inadequate for talking to gaijin. You really need to be prepared to get out of this one. One that really does work is to play dumb like this and say to the girl: "Hey? Do you know him too? Wow, that's funny, you saw me (your brother's friend, etc) and now you see this guy...." and if you continue talking longer he'll assume that you know her and leave you alone. If someone interrupts you might say that the girl is your student, and he might disappear. If you have to comment on the gaijin issue it has to be a comment that makes her feel it's cool to talk to gaijin. Actually that's not your goal, it doesn't matter how she feels, it matters how he thinks she feels! If he really thinks she wants to be talking to you he's gone. If she doesn't feel that it's cool to talk to you and if he is still standing there she'll stop talking to you out of embarrassment. So the key is to make him think that you're not picking her up.
Another thing I think that would work is a lot of the Pickup community AMOG tactics a lot of foreigners use on other gaijin in the bars. I'm not too familiar with them but know a few. When the hostboy comes up you can say to the girl, "Oooohh, he's cute! You told me that you like hosts, right?" Then, at that point, "gaijin" isn't the word that's embarrassing, it's "host." And if she feels embarrassed about that she might take a step away from him and he might leave. My main defense has always been to speak loudly and quickly to show the guy that she's actively involved in a conversation, in Japanese, she's focused on me, and that you aren't in our circle. I'd say this defers a good number of cockblock attempts before they begin, but not all especially:
2b. Direct Nampa from Vehicles
A huge problem I've had is with the guys who drive around in their painted vans hunting girls out the window. The have really, REALLY hurt me over the years. The girls sometimes go up to the car and talk to the guys while you're standing there looking like a dummy. I don't know how to deal with this. Even if the girls don't talk to the guys, just their presence is enough to make girls lose interest. Tip: if you notice these guys driving by looking at you and the girls, know that they will go around the block and be back again! Move the girls off of the road and preferably, out of sight!
Tip: these guys will show up only upon first talking to girls. If they see you first go up and hunt the girls and see that the girls stop to talk to your insignificant gaijin monkey butt then they think the girls are easy targets. These direct guys will never sit around watching for 5 minutes before they go cockblock you, that would make them type 3.
3. Shy Guys
Some guys will sit around a location where there are several girls sitting. I'm thinking HEP5 in Osaka. The girls sit, the guys sit. You can watch the guys watching the girls. They don't notice you yet, other than just a gaijin on vacation or something. You can sit and watch them for 10 minutes or more and if they haven't already they never go talk to the girls they are looking at. However, when you decide to go talk to the girls, BAM! They are right there within seconds! I've seen this and theorized with my friend Amanojack about this. We couldn't put two and two together, but we did conclude this: these guys will sit and stare at the girl until the girls leave. If Japanese hosts or nampa guys nampa them they won't budge. The only time they will move if is a gaijin talks to them. It's baffling to me. I would assume that if some drunk old men or loser guys came up to talk to the girls that the shy guys would also move in for the kill at this time thinking 'If the girls talk to those losers/old men/foreigners they'll talk to us!' A case of feeling insufficient, huh?
About solutions, here it's a bit harder because you don't have to get rid of just one guy, you have to get rid of all of them! They know you don't know her too because they've been sitting there stalking her for the past 10 minutes. If you read the above you would have seen how they always push their friend to go for it and after he talks the rest of the guys attack on cockblock each other. Well, you've just become the first friend and I have no clue what to do about this! You can try the solutions above, but you have to convince several guys instead of just one. Tough! 頑張れ、コンパドレー!